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Can't send Gmail anymore

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Suddenly a few weeks ago I tried to send a message from my Gmail account using Thunderbird and it asked me for my password. I entered it, and it failed, and Google sent me something about an "unsafe app" trying to log into my account. In trying to troubleshoot, I changed the mail server from smtp.googlemail.com to the currently specified by Google smtp.gmail.com, and I thought I was able to send an email (this was several weeks ago) but now here again I cannot.

I keep going through the troubleshooting but nothing works, I even tried setting the account up again from scratch in Thunderbird. What else can I do?

Thanks.

Suddenly a few weeks ago I tried to send a message from my Gmail account using Thunderbird and it asked me for my password. I entered it, and it failed, and Google sent me something about an "unsafe app" trying to log into my account. In trying to troubleshoot, I changed the mail server from smtp.googlemail.com to the currently specified by Google smtp.gmail.com, and I thought I was able to send an email (this was several weeks ago) but now here again I cannot. I keep going through the troubleshooting but nothing works, I even tried setting the account up again from scratch in Thunderbird. What else can I do? Thanks.

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What are your settings? They should be imap.gmail.com on 993 (or pop.gmail.com on 995), SSL/TLS, OAuth2 authentication; smtp.gmail.com on 465, SSL/TLS (or 587 STARTTLS), OAuth2 authentication. Cookies must be allowed in TB Preferences/Privacy & Security. Remove the passwords from Saved Passwords in Privacy & Security, restart TB, enter the account password in the OAuth browser window when prompted.

If you do that and it doesn't work, an antivirus app or VPN could be the cause.

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What are your settings? They should be imap.gmail.com on 993 (or pop.gmail.com on 995), SSL/TLS, OAuth2 authentication; smtp.gmail.com on 465, SSL/TLS (or 587 STARTTLS), OAuth2 authentication. Cookies must be allowed in TB Preferences/Privacy & Security. Remove the passwords from Saved Passwords in Privacy & Security, restart TB, enter the account password in the OAuth browser window when prompted.

If you do that and it doesn't work, an antivirus app or VPN could be the cause.

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The OAuth2 ended up being the issue.

Why did this happen? Did Google suddenly change the required authentication method without informing users? As part of my troubleshooting process i reconfigured the email from scratch, so why is Thunderbird's auto-configure not setting this to the correct setting if it is required to send emails?

And lastly, can you recommend a resource that explains, in layman's terms, how email works and what this stuff all means?

Thanks.

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OAuth2 has been available for over a year, but I don't know if Google informed users; the vast majority of gmail users access accounts through a browser or mobile mail app.

TB should enter the correct settings automatically during account setup, at least it's supposed to in recent versions. What is your version?

There is a support article on Gmail, that serves as a starting point.

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I am version 78.6.1, as far as I am aware it updates automatically, so should be latest version.

I browsed that article, but may have to accept that stuff like email has to remain over my head for now. Hoping to find a simple explanation a non-techie can understand but that may not actually exist. Thanks anyway.